Monday 24 December 2012

Judges seek protection from parents. laugh my fucking arse off!


Telegraph.co.uk
Monday 24 December 2012

sJudges seek protection from parent in 'unsafe' family courts

Judges convening over family courts need extra protection from parents unhappy at their decisions, it has been claimed.

Judge holding gavel in courtroom
Family court needs better security Photo: ALAMY
They claim that security arrangements during family cases are inadequate and leave officials open to attack.
District Judge Nicholas Crichton said “emotions run high” during family court cases and can trigger violent outbursts.
It is rare for judges to raise their concerns publicly but a number have taken the unusual step of speaking out to criticise security at the Principal Registry of the
Family Division (PRFD) in central London and also district courts around the country.
Judges told of parents shouting threats at them, as well as throwing books and cups.
One female judge was seriously injured in an attack.
"I have been threatened," said one, speaking under condition of anonymity to the Guardian.
"A very angry father stood up and shouted anti-Semitic threats at me. Another father threw a cup of water across the courtroom.
“Another parent threw a book but fortunately I was too far away for it to reach me."
Another judge, also speaking anonymously, said of the PRFD they were constantly “exposed” and there was no security in the courtroom.
“Sometimes we are in the courtroom alone with a parent. Most commonly, we sit with a clerk, who, in my experience, is always an elderly woman.
“If anything went wrong, believe you me, she would not be the one defending me.”
One circuit judge, who sits in county and crown courts and also in the family division in London, said security arrangements were inadequate.
"These are the most volatile, sensitive courts in the land, and one of these days there's going to be trouble in them,” he said.
“The risks are not being addressed properly and unless someone starts considering the security properly then it's a disaster waiting to happen.
“It will take one serious incident and someone will wake up to the fact that the current system is not safe for family judges.”
Judges complained that county courts often do not have both a courtroom and a retiring room for district judges.
A family judge at a court in outer London said: "People blow up in court – of course they do – we're taking their children away.
“We do have security in my court but they consist of very elderly men and a couple of young girls.
“The fact that it has not happened so far doesn't mean that it won't."
District Judge Nicholas Crichton, founder of the family drug and alcohol court at Wells Street family proceedings court in central London, who was given a CBE in this year's Queen's birthday honours list, said it was a "recipe for flashpoint" to compel judges to walk through public areas and share corridors.
Crichton said it was unfair to put parents, already in a state of great anxiety, under the added stress of proximity with the judge ruling on their case.
"Emotions run high," he said. "These parents are coming to court feeling criticised about how they treat their children and terrified they're going to have their children removed.
“That's a pretty toxic mix, but they're not criminals. Everything they have read in the paper and on TV leads them to be frightened of coming to court."
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  • Commenter's avatar
    After a decade in the Family courts I can honestly say it is quite understandable how some parents want to kill these B*stards.
    The social workers are the biggest liars and agenda-politics practitioners there are, the court causes a great deal of child abuse by doing whatever they tell them. They nearly always default with the mother (children's act actually says fathers do not exist) and ignoring the rights of Fathers.  Fathers are routinely discriminated against in a big way and it needs some Judges, to be frankly shot, in order for the system to realise the Nazi's were not tolerated then, they shall not be tolerated now.
    It is families and children that need protection from these Judges and Social workers.
    The press really need ot do an in-depth investigation into the multitude of crimes that take place there, you will find little difference between the family court and the worst aspects of China.
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    Thunyada
    You want to wear stupid clothes, and make stupid decisions?  And then you want more money from us to protect you from your own stupidity?
    Screw off.
    If you don't like it, you can leave sunshine. Go get another job.
    But you like the money, don't you?
    You are paid more than you are worth anyway. (But maybe you are a buddy of Camerons, Hmmm?)
    All judges should be elected! Then we might have some sanity in our judicial system.
    (Most judges are against the idea of being accountable to our democracy themselves).
  • Commenter's avatar
    I would suggest that if judges showed themselves to be a little more accountable, there would be less anger.
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    "condition of anonymity " ... there you have the root of the problem
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    MPsceptic
    As a father who has been through the court process in order to try and maintain contact with my son, I can appreciate the anger and frustration that can be felt when a judge fails to consider facts that should have a direct bearing on the case or, even more frustratingly, fails to enforce an order that they made themselves! Seriously, the family courts are weak.
    I am in the position now where the judge who made my original contact order and which has been/ is being broken, will not enforce the order as (in his words) punishing the mother will have a detrimental effect on the children.... What sort of message does this send to anyone involved in this kind of action? Firstly, the resident parent is empowered to do what they wish as there is no consequence to their actions. Secondly, the non- resident parent feels betrayed and abandoned by the system and quite justifiably feels angry about the situation & thirdly, if the child is aware of the court action and sees that a court order can be flouted at will, what sort of example does this send about obeying laws?
    I have always believed that it should be possible to sue a judge who fails to enforce their own orders but alas, what would the chances of a victory be huh?... I guess however that  (and I am certainly not advocating violence) the kind of head on approach that this article describes may seem to be the only option open to some people who find themselves 'fucked over ' by the beak. 
  • Commenter's avatar
     Have you ever had a court order enforced when a WOMAN breaches it? I have never had one enforced. My ex abused my children for 5 years and effectivley got rewarded. She used parental alienation and they helped her.

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